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Xiao Hui has left a new comment on your post "No more anonymous comments":
I will be staying at Puteri 11 with my parents. This is my fist time posting in this blog. I decided to post after speaking to Mr. Loke yesterday. It pertaining to the issue of the cheques that I read from here. However, I am not very please with his response as the treasurer of RA. I enquire about the separate cheques payment and he told me he did not know anything about it. He asked me to check with the auditors!!! When pressed more he asked me to check with Mr. Chiam personally!!! I just do not understand. As the treasurer, if you don’t know, who knows? Since when the auditors issue cheques or are they authorize to do so? As paying resident, I just want to know so I can share with my neighbors. They’re asking what’s happening with the security. Mind you, I was the one that convinced them and also my parent in the first place to contribute to engage the security for the benefits of our Taman. I feel I have the responsibility to share info with the aunties and uncles.
When I enquire about the status of our account, his response”…… you expect me to do accounts EVERYDAY?”. Mr. Loke, I NEVER EXPECT YOU TO DO IT EVERYDAY!! Do you think you need to do that? We don’t sell things, we do not have daily transaction. Which accounting person will need to do so?? All I am asking is the status of the account, meaning the updated ones.. i.e. total collection of membership fees (RM15) and monthly collection (either 3 months or 1 month) till today minus off the expenses incur from the moment you started to collect OUR MONEY. THAT’S IT. Is it that difficult to do so? Then he asked me why I never attend the meeting last Sunday. Now this is the problem with communication between the RA and residents. There’s no notice sent to resident, no one inform us. It was only posted in the blog. So, you’re assuming every resident can read and have access to the blog? Or they can read your RA’s mind what’s your next action?
A lot has been going on in this blog. I cant say who is telling the truth. But my post here with the response I quoted all took place yesterday and I never twisted any of the FACTS. I do not mind sharing this with all residents. We have our rights.
UNBELIEVEABLE U GUYS!!!
Posted by Xiao Hui to Puchong Puteri 11 at December 23, 2010 2:40 AM
Dear Xiao Hui,
I have informed Mr Loke about your posting on our blogspot.
Meanwhile, allow me to explain the two separate cheques issued to the supplier. I assigned Mr Khoo, who was with our security sub-committee, to source for gate tags and car stickers. I did not tell him to get the quotation approved first before placing the order. I later found out that the car sticker price is high. I requested Mr Khoo to negotiate with the supplier which he did and got a small discount. I take full responsibility for the mistake and decided that I shall issue my personal cheque to the supplier for the amount that I found still overcharged which is about RM 720.00.
The November 2010 accounts are already posted on the website. Please look for it. I agree that our existing communication channel is weak and need a lot more improvements.
Please contact me should you want further clarifications.
Chiam
RA
Thursday, December 23, 2010
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Dear RA and Xiao Hui,
ReplyDeleteUpon knowing about the 2 cheques issue, I too called the treasurer Mr.Loke and I received the same response as Xiao Hui that he knew nothing about it until he was informed by one of the resident who has called earlier. What Mr. Loke did is just requesting me to check it out with either Mr. Khoo or Mr. Chiam. What on earth is going on here? Based on what Mr.Loke issues cheque? By seeing the invoice or by Mr. Chiam verbal request? HOW???
Something that I cannot understand is why Mr. Chiam has to absorp the $720. Is the cost of the sticker is higher that what he has quoted in the EGM ie. $2? What more why Mr.Loke does not know anything when asked? The existing communication channed is already extremely weak between the RA and residents, don't tell us that this also happen between the RA committee? By reading both Xiao Hui and Chiam comments, it reflected Mr.Chiam behaved more like a dictator than being a chairman of the association. Wow! how wonderful!!!!!!!.
RA or Kai Seng, Or Chairman, or whoever lah.. no need to explain to residents lah... kan already confirmed its the server, Super server problem. The one that only delete selected posting only. Maybe people found out, eh, why so funny, like now you see it, now you dont!!! Then only the server automatically re-post balik... Kan i asked you to change server, chairman later too stress fire you tau...
ReplyDeleteChiam,
ReplyDeleteI think you lied too much till you cannot remember when you are telling the truth or lying. I am responding to your reply to Ms Xiao Hui above. I have clarify this with Mr. Khoo and either you are lying or he is lying. But let me present the facts as far as I know before we conclude:
1. "I assigned Mr. Khoo, who was with our security sub-committee, to source for gate tags and car stickers". Yes, but, you did not put in writing here that you also requested Khoo to inform the supplier to make tags and stickers as per your requirement, design and material used.
2. “I did not tell him to get the quotation approved first before placing the order”. You DID!! He obtained the quote, showed it to you, told you the costing as per your requirement, design and material used. You are the one that told him to go ahead. Its just a pity that Khoo never gets your authorized signatory to prove this. But he also never expects you to turn around and LIED. By the way, do you think he is that naïve to proceed WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL?
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ReplyDelete5. “I take full responsibility for the mistake and decided that I shall issue my personal cheque to the supplier for the amount that I found still overcharged which is about RM 720.00”. YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE YOU LIAR. You should not even use the word overcharge here. You and your whole committees should have study the proposal and costing before proceed to purchase. If I am your boss, I FIRE you immediately. Don’t act pity and expect people to sympathies you just because you fork out you own money. You SHOULD!! And don’t go around boasting about it.
You are just blaming poor Mr. Khoo who has been assisting all the residents here wholeheartedly. Now, that is the actual reason why he resigns. And in your post on issue of Securing Security Guards, you specifically mentioned “The security company we will engage, Z Force Security Services & Systems Sdn. Bhd., is agreeable to the one month probation contract. This company is also the one recommended by Mr. Khoo, who was previously with our security sub-committee”. You must put his name there as though he is such a big influence to ‘force’ the RA to take his recommendation. It’s RA’s decision who to appoint, nor Mr. KHOO. Whatever your agreement with that company is between RA and the service provider. I hope you have 3 quotes to compare and study, that is if you guys did.
I do not know what your intention here is but you are playing a dangerous game putting blame on other people to cover yourself. Unless Khoo is the one LYING to us. We shall find out very soon. Let’s see who will seek clarification from whom. I love to find out the truth too. All you readers can choose not to believe what I have written here. It’s up to your clear and fair judgment. Know what, its good for some concerned residents to pinpoint and post these issues. Otherwise, we just don’t know what you guys are up to.
Chiam, no more lies please. But hey, cant stop you. You choose your own path.
Bro Puchong,
ReplyDeleteThey are deleting our posting here... How? I guess i just keep on posting. I have so much time. Maybe they block you oredi so you also cannot access.
Yah, you are right. Slap their own face. Never delete, liberal!!! Now we know whether they are telling the truth. Your posting of point 3, 4 deleted again. Ha... we continue tomorrow lah.
ReplyDeleteBro, you re-posted. Saw it then gone again... What to do, hiding the truth. Ok, we cont again trow... Kai Seng or Chiam. You may go to sleep now. We will continue tomorrow. But we wont tell you wat time. You stare at your PC forever lah... GOTCHA!!!!
ReplyDelete3. “I later found out that the car sticker price is high”. What a LIAR. You found out later? You knew from the beginning you SLY OLD FOX. By the way, you found out the price was higher by comparing prices from Puteri 6 and Puteri 12 RAs as mentioned by your good self to so many people. Chiam, how can you compare cost with tags, stickers, etc done few years back and of different design and material used. Did it never occur to you that first time printing will always be more expensive due to design fee, mold or block charges, quantity. etc. I don’t know about Puteri 6, but Puteri 12 have got many more units compare to Puteri11. Higher quantity, cheaper rates. BTW, shouldn’t you’ve compares prices with another 2 more quotes from separate suppliers before you procure? Oh, sorry, blame that on Khoo coz he did the order without you knowing. Yet, here you compare by just finding out from other RAs.
ReplyDeleteThere suppose to be 9 posting as of now. If certain posting deleted, then this will not tally 9 posting.
ReplyDelete4. “I requested Mr. Khoo to negotiate with the supplier which he did and got a small discount”. You never reveal to us that you only asked Khoo to negotiate the price only after you realized your mistake. To cover yourself, you asked him to nego. Chiam, this is not the way to do business no matter how small or big a project. You nego BEFORE confirmation. Once decided, then you pay accordingly unless there are defects on good delivered or not conforming to your requirements, etc. Is there any defects? Subsequently you asked supplier to reduce rates just because you found out that cost is lower from other RAs. YOU MUST BE JOKING!!! This whole scenario shows very well that even your committees don’t know what’s going ON. Oh, rephrase, some of them don’t coz only SOME of you knew.
ReplyDeleteThere will be 11 posting include this one as of now. Posted all the points unless they keep on deleting.
ReplyDeleteSleepy... going to sleep now. Saya, u still there? Know what, i did post the points in every posting and they keep deleting it... very efficient doing what they do best. Hiding the truth!!!
ReplyDeletedear puchong, saya,
ReplyDeleteyour continual refusal to accept our explanation that we did not delete the comments is astounding. we continued to request for your IT help, yet you could offer none.
anyway, you all are welcome to post more comments. your determination is commendable.
thank you for visiting the blog.
Puchongputeri11,
ReplyDeleteIt is more astounding to see you defencing yourself when situation seems to be so obvious. Anyway, it is ok whether you admitted to what you people did, as it is no longer important and most residents are awared of it.
Your determinations is commendable too.
Chiam or Puchongputeri11
ReplyDeleteSay what you want. You never answer questions or clarify anyway. Always try diverting from actual issues.